peter2014

12 May, Po Toi

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13/05/2015 01:50

lpaul

Do you have more photos of this bird?  The distinct yellowish wash to the underparts suggests it might be a 'Standford's' Minivet, i.e. a hybrid between Swinhoe's and Rosy Minivets.

peter2014

Hi Paul, here are more pics for this bird, what do you think?

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13/05/2015 11:18

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13/05/2015 11:18

lpaul

Difficult to tell, and it may simply be my screen settings.  Any photos of the back/upperparts?

JohnC

Another birder got photos of the the back.  Hope he will post here.

lsuiwa

PO TOI 12/5/2015

Jonathmartinez

I had the same impression with Paul seing the first set of pictures, but the new one clearly show it was an artefact due to the camera and the light...and no yellow color at all on this new pics...

lmichael

I think that there are some slight yellow tones on vent, flank and rump. To meet it seems that this bird is a probably a hybrid in that there are some Rosy Minivet genes there but the hybridisation event was probably at least two generations ago i.e. most of its genes are Swinhoe's. If there are F1 hybrids (which would be classic 'stanfordi' then it is logical that there will also be backcrosses.

Regards

Mike Leven

Jonathmartinez

to me the yellow on the vent is clearly some noise due to low light area, there is the same color on the throat that do not appears on other picture.

lpaul

A very interesting bird!  Irrespective of the extent of yellow below there is clearly some pink in the tail. Whilst this is a Rosy Minivet feature, it is a male Rosy minivet feature and yet this bird is clearly a female and (sexually dimorphism) hybrid birds don't (never?) show a mix of male and female plumage traits; think for example of hybrid ducks.

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