HKBWS BBS 香 港 觀 鳥 會 新 聞 組    Discussion Area 討論區    Bird Identification 鳥類辨識 (Moderators: BBS Moderators, Yat-tung YU)    Crested Goshawk 鳳頭鷹 « Previous topic | Next topic » Pages: 1 2  Reply Send Topic Print    Author  Topic: Crested Goshawk 鳳頭鷹  (Read 1863 times) me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Crested Goshawk 鳳頭鷹 « on: Feb 14th, 2004, 6:05pm » Quote Modify 075 Crested Goshawk 鳳頭鷹 Mai Po 米埔 14/2/2004 EOS 10D+ 70-200 + 1.4X     Is this a falcon?   (Images cropped )             « Last Edit: May 28th, 2004, 4:44pm by BBS Moderators » Logged KK Hui BBS Member BBS God Bird Photography - at its best ...     Posts: 940 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #1 on: Feb 14th, 2004, 8:19pm » Quote Modify The distinctive barred tail and the underwing pattern lead me to believe it is a female Northern Sparrowhawk.       Nice shots, BTW!     KK Hui ARPS www.geocities.com/kkhui_001 « Last Edit: Feb 14th, 2004, 9:24pm by KK Hui » Logged me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #2 on: Feb 14th, 2004, 9:01pm » Quote Modify Thanks!     I must be very lucky for "bumping" into it today!     « Last Edit: Feb 14th, 2004, 9:06pm by me_domchan » Logged guest Guest Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #3 on: Feb 14th, 2004, 9:25pm » Quote Modify Remove Please note the mesial stripe, I will consider it as a Besra. Logged MW Guest Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #4 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 1:54am » Quote Modify Remove 喉央線深黑色且顯著，所以可肯定是松雀鷹 Besra Sparrowhawk Logged pan BBS Member BBS Senior Member     Gender: Posts: 77 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #5 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 2:32am » Quote Modify 會是鳳頭鷹的幼鳥嗎? 因為有明顯白眉, 而且飛行時雙翼放得很平 請指點 « Last Edit: Feb 15th, 2004, 2:35am by pan » Logged Falcon BBS Member BBS God be like a falcon.....     Gender: Posts: 239 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #6 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 11:18am » Quote Modify I think this one is a Crested Goshawk juvenile. Its wings are rounded when it is flying. Logged 努力不一定會成功，但不努力一定不會成功! me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #7 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 3:25pm » Quote Modify May be I try to get more photo here tonite,   also this raptor flips its wings quite frequent when "hovering"   The size of this raptor is small, overrall length is similar to that of Magpie.     Will it be somekind of Vulture? As it looks similar to "灰面鷲" in a Taiwan Book.   Logged Falcon BBS Member BBS God be like a falcon.....     Gender: Posts: 239 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #8 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 6:29pm » Quote Modify Hovering would be one of the best ways to identify the Crested Goshawk inflight. Also note the roundish tail while perching. Logged 努力不一定會成功，但不努力一定不會成功! me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #9 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 6:42pm » Quote Modify on Feb 15th, 2004, 6:29pm, Falcon wrote: Hovering would be one of the best ways to identify the Crested Goshawk inflight. Also note the roundish tail while perching.     But isn't that black kite hover too?   Did I use the wrong word?   I mean it flies in a circle.... Logged Falcon BBS Member BBS God be like a falcon.....     Gender: Posts: 239 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #10 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 7:17pm » Quote Modify Sorry, i think i am using the wrong word. The Crested Goshawk will flap its wings frequently inflight. Logged 努力不一定會成功，但不努力一定不會成功! me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #11 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 10:11pm » Quote Modify Some more photos.     This time the photos are larger http://www.fotop.net/albums/dominicchan/dominicchan01/raptor_04.jpg http://www.fotop.net/albums/dominicchan/dominicchan01/raptor_05.jpg http://www.fotop.net/albums/dominicchan/dominicchan01/raptor_06.jpg http://www.fotop.net/albums/dominicchan/dominicchan01/raptor_07.jpg « Last Edit: Jun 8th, 2004, 12:38pm by BBS Moderators » Logged TH_Kwan BBS Member BBS Full Member I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 48 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #12 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 10:27pm » Quote Modify Some other points supporting that this bird is Crested Goshawk are listed below:   1. lack of a notch at the primaries which is more suggestive of Besra.   2. Head body : tail ratio about 1: 3/4 (should be 1:1 in case of Besra) 3. A faint whitish vent is visible though not very prominent in this bird, suggestive of Crested Goshawk.   4. Typical call and flying behaviour.     A very good reference book from Taiwan concerning identification of raptor 台灣賞鷹圖鑑 is worth reading. Logged me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Re: Raptor ID help « Reply #13 on: Feb 16th, 2004, 9:36am » Quote Modify Thanks TH_KWAN,   So this is a juvenile Crested Goshawk?     Wow.......I am very lucky!   Logged Paul Leader Guest tinRe: Raptor ID help « Reply #14 on: Feb 16th, 2004, 4:51pm » Quote Modify Remove This is indeed a first-winter Crested Goshawk, it can be quite easily told from all other first-winter accipiters in Hk due to the combination of a well-marked mesial and almost unmarked breast, belly and flanks.  All other first-winter accipiters are very marked below by comparision.   These excellent  photographs also show the distinctive shape of CG in flight with the long tail and broad wings that are clearly pinched at the body.   Another good pointer towards Crested Goshawk are the very thick legs of this bird - all other accipiters in HK have clearly thinner legs.     Paul Logged Pages: 1 2  Reply Send Topic Print Forum Jump: ----------------------------- Announcement 簡訊通告 -----------------------------  - Membership Affair 會員事務   - Outings / Activities 戶外活動 / 講座   - Projects 項目計劃   - Crested Bulbul Club 紅耳鵯俱樂部 ----------------------------- Discussion Area 討論區 -----------------------------  - General 一般問題   - Conservation 自然保育 => Bird Identification 鳥類辨識   - Birding Reports & Tips 觀鳥報告及心得   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 I   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 II ----------------------------- Special Topics 特別主題 -----------------------------  - Wild Birds & Avian Flu 野鳥與禽流感   - Sustainable Management Scheme in Long Valley 塱原可持續生態管理計劃   - Black-faced Spoonbill 黑臉琵鷺   - Goodbye Penfold 告別彭福   - Tern Conservation 燕鷗保育   - Black-eared Kite 鳶(麻鷹)   - Swifts and Swallows 燕與雨燕   - China Birdwatching Network 中國觀鳥活動網絡   - Winter Altas Survey 冬季鳥類普查   - Nature Conservation Policy 自然保育政策 ----------------------------- Knowledge Sharing 知識分享 -----------------------------  - FAQ 常見問題   - Archive 資料重溫 « Previous topic | Next topic »

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