HKBWS BBS 香 港 觀 鳥 會 新 聞 組    Discussion Area 討論區    Bird Identification 鳥類辨識 (Moderators: Yat-tung YU, BBS Moderators)    Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Previous topic | Next topic » Pages: 1  Reply Send Topic Print    Author  Topic: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？  (Read 820 times) me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « on: Apr 18th, 2005, 4:16pm » Quote Modify Mai Po   10/3/05; 13/3/05   DSLR     Is this a Green Sandpiper? How to distinguish wood/geen sandpiper in the field?         Logged Mike Kilburn Committee Member BBS God     Posts: 334 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #1 on: Apr 18th, 2005, 4:25pm » Quote Modify This is a Green Sandpiper in summer plumage.   Unfortunately the pix in the Guide to the Birds of Hong Kong and South China are not toohelpful for these 2 species.   It is the summer plumage which is harder to seperate Green Sand from Wood Sand, as Green shows more spotting on the wings and back and neck in summer plumage - making it look closer to Wood Sand.     However ther are always some differences:     Green Sandpiper is longer, shorter-legged and holds its body more horizontal than Wood Sandpiper which has longer legs and usually stands more upright.   Wood Sandpiper usually shows a supercilium, - as you can see Green Sandpiper usually does not.   In flight Green sandpiper looks black with a a bright white rump and belly.  The contrast between the dark wings and the white parts of the plumage is very strong.   Wood Sandpiper does not show the same black/white contrast as Green Sandpiper - it usually looks greyish brown in flight,although beoth species have a white rump it is not so clear on Wood Sandpiper.   Cheers   Mike K Logged Mike Kilburn Vice Chairman Chairman - ConservationCommittee HKBWS me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #2 on: Apr 18th, 2005, 5:24pm » Quote Modify Thanks Mike!     I have another question, can we distinguish wood/green sandpiper from the pattern of the white spots on the summer plumage?     Is that the white spot on wood sandpiper are generally larger and more separated, which give an "spotted" impression? Logged raycheng BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Posts: 154 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #3 on: Apr 19th, 2005, 12:21am » Quote Modify Is this one the wood sandpiper?   Logged My gallery: http://www.pbase.com/ray526 Mike Kilburn Committee Member BBS God     Posts: 334 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #4 on: Apr 19th, 2005, 7:12pm » Quote Modify   You are right.   Wood Sandpiper has more spots on the back and wings.     Ray's picture of Wood Sandpiper shows this well.   However if you are not sure it is also useful to check the other features too.   Cheers   Mike K Logged Mike Kilburn Vice Chairman Chairman - ConservationCommittee HKBWS Fred BBS Member BBS God Birds are fascinating!     Posts: 254 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #5 on: Apr 20th, 2005, 1:08am » Quote Modify Hi, there.   The background of Ray's photo suggests it was in summer when the photo was taken.  In summer plumage, the whitish spots alone are difficult to distinguish the green sand from the wood.  On the other hand, the white supercilium is not conspicuous in the photo.  So is there still a chance of it being a green sand?  Please enlighten.   Ku Logged Mike Kilburn Committee Member BBS God     Posts: 334 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #6 on: Apr 20th, 2005, 6:25am » Quote Modify Green Sand is basically a dark -backed bird with a few rather small white spots (almost all on the fringe of the feathers of the back). Wood Sand is a lighter brown bird with larger white and black spots on the wings and back. These pictures offers a good comparison of these features.   It also helps to learn the calls of each species and remember the differences when in flight.   These two pictures also show that Wood Sand often looks longer-necked than Green Sand - Green = hunched and horizontal posture, Wood = a more upright long-necked posture.   Hope this helps     Mike K Logged Mike Kilburn Vice Chairman Chairman - ConservationCommittee HKBWS raycheng BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Posts: 154 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #7 on: Apr 20th, 2005, 9:26am » Quote Modify on Apr 20th, 2005, 6:25am, Mike Kilburn wrote: Green Sand is basically a dark -backed bird with a few rather small white spots (almost all on the fringe of the feathers of the back). Wood Sand is a lighter brown bird with larger white and black spots on the wings and back. These pictures offers a good comparison of these features.   It also helps to learn the calls of each species and remember the differences when in flight.   These two pictures also show that Wood Sand often looks longer-necked than Green Sand - Green = hunched and horizontal posture, Wood = a more upright long-necked posture.   Hope this helps     Mike K   Thanks Mike for the clarification!!  :D   Ku, the photo was taken last Sunday. Logged My gallery: http://www.pbase.com/ray526 Fred BBS Member BBS God Birds are fascinating!     Posts: 254 Re: Wood? Green Sandpiper?  白腰草鷸？林鷸？ « Reply #8 on: Apr 20th, 2005, 3:14pm » Quote Modify My thanks to Mike for the ID advice, and to Ray and Dominic for the beautiful photos.   Logged Pages: 1  Reply Send Topic Print Forum Jump: ----------------------------- Announcement 簡訊通告 -----------------------------  - Membership Affair 會員事務   - Outings / Activities 戶外活動 / 講座   - Projects 項目計劃   - Crested Bulbul Club 紅耳鵯俱樂部 ----------------------------- Discussion Area 討論區 -----------------------------  - General 一般問題   - Conservation 自然保育 => Bird Identification 鳥類辨識   - Birding Reports & Tips 觀鳥報告及心得   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 I   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 II ----------------------------- Special Topics 特別主題 -----------------------------  - Wild Birds & Avian Flu 野鳥與禽流感   - Sustainable Management Scheme in Long Valley 塱原可持續生態管理計劃   - Black-faced Spoonbill 黑臉琵鷺   - Goodbye Penfold 告別彭福   - Tern Conservation 燕鷗保育   - Black-eared Kite 鳶(麻鷹)   - Swifts and Swallows 燕與雨燕   - China Birdwatching Network 中國觀鳥活動網絡   - Winter Altas Survey 冬季鳥類普查   - Nature Conservation Policy 自然保育政策 ----------------------------- Knowledge Sharing 知識分享 -----------------------------  - FAQ 常見問題   - Archive 資料重溫 « Previous topic | Next topic »

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