HKBWS BBS 香 港 觀 鳥 會 新 聞 組    Discussion Area 討論區    Bird Identification 鳥類辨識 (Moderators: Yat-tung YU, BBS Moderators)    Unsure Shrike on Lamma « Previous topic | Next topic » Pages: 1  Reply Send Topic Print    Author  Topic: Unsure Shrike on Lamma  (Read 1187 times) Neil BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Posts: 498 Unsure Shrike on Lamma « on: Sep 24th, 2006, 9:06pm » Quote Modify Seen yesterday in the farmland on Lamma.  I guess a juvenile Long-Tailed Shrike but the markings seem indistinct.   Help! Neil.   Lamma Island, Hong Kong, China.   23/09/06   Olympus 7070wz plus Swarovski STS80HD scope and 30x eyepiece and DCA adatper   Logged miket BBS Member BBS God I'd rather be birding!     Posts: 257 Re: Unsure Shrike on Lamma « Reply #1 on: Sep 24th, 2006, 9:20pm » Quote Modify This is juvenile Brown Shrike, Neil.   Mike Turnbull Logged Paul Leader BBS Member BBS Senior Member     Posts: 83 Re: Unsure Shrike on Lamma « Reply #2 on: Sep 25th, 2006, 9:42am » Quote Modify Surely it is a first-winter.  Whilst it has retained juvenile greater coverts it has clearly moulted all the body feathers, i.e. it has completed its post juvenile moult. Logged miket BBS Member BBS God I'd rather be birding!     Posts: 257 Re: Unsure Shrike on Lamma « Reply #3 on: Sep 25th, 2006, 11:18am » Quote Modify Yes, Paul. I thought about that shortly after I posted, and specifically when what it is presumably a bird in juvenile plumage was posted elsewhere (in fact by Owen in the photo  gallery).   I'd be interested to read your opinion on the age (and identity) of that bird (though if it's not a juvenile Brown Shrike  I'm seriously confused).   Mike Logged Paul Leader BBS Member BBS Senior Member     Posts: 83 Re: Unsure Shrike on Lamma « Reply #4 on: Sep 25th, 2006, 11:26am » Quote Modify I agree, that bird is a juvenile.  In fact, if it was photgraphed by the school, I had good but brief views yesterday, which I suspected (as is, I think, confirmed by the photos) was a juvenile cristatus Brown Shrike (due to rich brown colour to the upperparts).   Anyhow, it has moulted none of the juvenile plumage, compare for example the retained juvenile upperparts, median coverts, primary coverts etc. with the Lamma bird.   Note also the difference in the ground colour of the Lamma bird (a first winter lucionensis) and the Po Toi bird (nominate cristatus). Logged miket BBS Member BBS God I'd rather be birding!     Posts: 257 Re: Unsure Shrike on Lamma « Reply #5 on: Sep 25th, 2006, 1:47pm » Quote Modify Thanks, Paul.   Subspecific identity of the Po Toi bird - which unfortunately I didn't see - as cristatus, certainly makes sense and explains its almost Tiger Shrike tone and intensity, while clearly having dark through the eye and a less deep bill than Tiger.   Mike. Logged Pages: 1  Reply Send Topic Print Forum Jump: ----------------------------- Announcement 簡訊通告 -----------------------------  - Membership Affair 會員事務   - Outings / Activities 戶外活動 / 講座   - Projects 項目計劃   - Crested Bulbul Club 紅耳鵯俱樂部 ----------------------------- Discussion Area 討論區 -----------------------------  - General 一般問題   - Conservation 自然保育 => Bird Identification 鳥類辨識   - Birding Reports & Tips 觀鳥報告及心得   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 I   - Photo Gallery 相片分享 II ----------------------------- Special Topics 特別主題 -----------------------------  - Wild Birds & Avian Flu 野鳥與禽流感   - Sustainable Management Scheme in Long Valley 塱原可持續生態管理計劃   - Black-faced Spoonbill 黑臉琵鷺   - Goodbye Penfold 告別彭福   - Tern Conservation 燕鷗保育   - Black-eared Kite 鳶(麻鷹)   - Swifts and Swallows 燕與雨燕   - China Birdwatching Network 中國觀鳥活動網絡   - Winter Altas Survey 冬季鳥類普查   - Nature Conservation Policy 自然保育政策 ----------------------------- Knowledge Sharing 知識分享 -----------------------------  - FAQ 常見問題   - Archive 資料重溫 « Previous topic | Next topic »

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