HKBWS BBS 香 港 觀 鳥 會 新 聞 組    Special Topics 特別主題    Wild Birds & Avian Flu 野鳥與禽流感 (Moderators: Webcreeper, BBS Moderators, Forrest FONG)    Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Previous topic | Next topic » Pages: 1 2  Reply Send Topic Print    Author  Topic: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區  (Read 2522 times) 深藍 Owen BBS Administrator LOVE KINGFISHER~!     Gender: Posts: 1358 Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « on: Jan 30th, 2004, 11:44am » Quote Modify Mr Yeo quote on Press conference, close MPNR according to H5N1 (well, why don't they close TBT either)   Can anybody please help to clarify that we the people who got permit are count as public also? Or we can enter MPNR still   楊永強在新聞發報會說出.. « Last Edit: Jan 30th, 2004, 12:13pm by 深藍 Owen » Logged ___________________ http://www.i-owen.com 香港昆蟲網 http://hkinsect.net/forum Forrest FONG BBS Administrator I love Bird Watching!     Gender: Posts: 1123 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #1 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 3:08pm » Quote Modify on Jan 30th, 2004, 11:44am, Owen wrote: Can anybody please help to clarify that we the people who got permit are count as public also? Or we can enter MPNR still   Noboby can enter Mai PO Nature Reserve including those who got the permit.   Forrest Logged FF 深藍 Owen BBS Administrator LOVE KINGFISHER~!     Gender: Posts: 1358 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #2 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 3:39pm » Quote Modify SHOCK!!!! Logged ___________________ http://www.i-owen.com 香港昆蟲網 http://hkinsect.net/forum Lew Young Guest Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #3 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 3:41pm » Quote Modify Remove Dear All,   The latest news we have is that Mai Po will be closed from an indefinate period starting from 31 January 2004. All Mai Po Entry Permit holders will be excluded from the reserve except for staff of the reserve who will be allowed in.     I understand that AFCD are preparing a longer statement on the issue and I will try and pass this on as soon as we have received it. Otherwise, I hope that AFCD can post the information directly on this BBS.   Lew Young Mai Po Nature Reserve Logged 深藍 Owen BBS Administrator LOVE KINGFISHER~!     Gender: Posts: 1358 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #4 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 3:46pm » Quote Modify Many THANKS~~!!! Logged ___________________ http://www.i-owen.com 香港昆蟲網 http://hkinsect.net/forum Concerned Birdwatcher Guest Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #5 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 10:30pm » Quote Modify Remove The decision to close MPNR is quite the most ludicrous decision this government has made. It defies belief that Mai Po is closed but markets selling chickens kept cooped up in serried ranks of cages remain open. It is in these places that the virus jumps the species barrier from chickens to humans, not at Mai Po.   Quite what risk does the government think the birds at MP pose? When do birdwatchers, never mind the general public, ever come into contact with birds at a level sufficiently close to transmit bird flu? I certainly don't generally come nearer than 15m from most waterbirds. And I certainly don't put my finger into bird faeces and lick them!   If migratory birds are such a problem, then the government should be closing all country parks, all special areas, all public parks, the whole of the fishpond area of Deep Bay, Tsim Bei Tsui....in fact, any area where migratory birds are present. And that is almost everywhere outside of core urban areas.   This decision smacks of 'knee-jerkism', and a desire to be seen to be doing SOMETHING, while at the same time ensuring that that something causes minimum inconvenience to the government. It is also cheap...no compensation for slaughtering chickens, and no mainland authorities to get angry when imports are banned.   This decision also sends completely the wrong message to the public about wild birds. Instead of encouraging people to value them as part of our natural heritage, it simply makes people see them as disease vectors, and therefore dangerous, and therefore to be shunned and persecuted.   All in all, a ridiculous, unnecessary and positively stupid decision ! Logged Bob Thompson BBS Member BBS God I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 433 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #6 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 11:02pm » Quote Modify This one action by the government, the closure of MPNR, has ruined the years of hardwork by all NGO's who are devoted to the promotion of migratory birds.   It is now going to be very difficult for NGO's and environmentalists to convince the public on the importance of wetlands.     The general public are now only going to see wetlands as useless marsh areas that hold large amounts of wild "disease carrying" birds.       Logged Mr X Guest Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #7 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 11:32pm » Quote Modify Remove A very non-sense decision. There is no evidence that "migratory birds" can disperse bird flu.   Why not close chicken farms and Park N shops? Why Mai Po?     I believe I can get H5N1 at fishponds near Mai Po if "migratory birds" there are dispersal agents.   Should we close all country parks as the terrestrial "migratory birds" also visit these popular places?   In fact, "migratory birds" colonise all over HK in winter and autumn. Pls note that some populations of the commonest Chinese and Crested Bulbuls are migratory. How can we escape these birds that living together with us closely?     Too emotional!! Logged 深藍 Owen BBS Administrator LOVE KINGFISHER~!     Gender: Posts: 1358 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #8 on: Jan 30th, 2004, 11:43pm » Quote Modify I'm thinking about "San Po Kong river" (新蒲崗)   Logged ___________________ http://www.i-owen.com 香港昆蟲網 http://hkinsect.net/forum KK Hui BBS Member BBS God Bird Photography - at its best ...     Posts: 940 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #9 on: Feb 1st, 2004, 4:02pm » Quote Modify Very well said, Concerned Birdwatcher and bjingbar!!!     The decision to close MPNR is more of a political move than anything else in my opinion. The government, the highly paid officials, need to be seen reacting to do something, right?!     Let's hope that the whole thing will go away in no time ...   KK Hui ARPS www.geocities.com/kkhui_001 Logged Lew Young Guest Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #10 on: Feb 2nd, 2004, 11:34am » Quote Modify Remove Dear All,   The announcement from the Environment, Transport and Works Bureau is that Mai Po will be temporarily closed from 31 January until 29 February as a precautionary measure.     The full text of their press release can be found on the website of the ETWB http://www.etwb.gov.hk/whats_new/index.aspx?langno=1&nodeid=1116   I will try and give updates as soon as we receive them from government.   Regards, Lew Logged Forrest FONG BBS Administrator I love Bird Watching!     Gender: Posts: 1123 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #11 on: Feb 2nd, 2004, 1:21pm » Quote Modify Lew,   Thanks for the updates. We all hope that Mai Po Nature Reserve can be re-opened asap.   Regards   Forrest Logged FF Simba Chan Guest Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #12 on: Feb 2nd, 2004, 4:48pm » Quote Modify Remove I was in Thailand last week - a country that REALLY affected by the Avian flu. Japan has also reported a few cases in western Honshu.   However, none of these countries officially blame migratory birds as vectors of the virus. Even if they do, the chance of catching avian flu from wild birds is extremely low. I worry more about who's sitting next to me in a plane than flu-carrying migratory birds I see in the field.   What Hong Kong does may trigger a wave of paranoia in Asia. I hope other countries will not close their reserves because of the Hong Kong precedent - a very bad one. I hope the Hong Kong Government will think twice on this matter.   Simba Chan Wild Bird Society of Japan Logged me_domchan BBS Administrator I love bird watching!     Gender: Posts: 501 Re: Close MPNR  關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #13 on: Feb 2nd, 2004, 5:02pm » Quote Modify MPNR is a restricted area in the first place, I really have no idea why they have to "close" MPNR....   Logged Lynx BBS Member BBS God     Posts: 429 Re: 關閉米埔自然保護區 « Reply #14 on: Feb 2nd, 2004, 10:52pm » Quote Modify What a shock!   In addition to informing me of the close of MPNR, today I received a letter from AFCD saying that:   For the sake of personal health and safety, it is advised that all bird watching activities should be temporary stopped in all areas of Hong Kong. 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