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(Message started by: waterblowing on Dec 3rd, 2005, 11:24pm)

Title: Birds in Long Valley
Post by waterblowing on Dec 3rd, 2005, 11:24pm
dear all,

can't identify the birds i see today..
please help

:)
http://lonican.sinaman.com/03122005/CHUI0219_RJ.JPG
http://lonican.sinaman.com/03122005/CHUI0223_RJ.JPG
http://lonican.sinaman.com/03122005/CHUI0230_RJ.JPG
http://lonican.sinaman.com/03122005/CHUI0235_RJ.JPG
http://lonican.sinaman.com/03122005/CHUI0253_RJ.JPG
http://lonican.sinaman.com/03122005/CHUI0279_RJ.JPG
http://lonican.sinaman.com/03122005/CHUI0301_RJ.JPG
thanks a lot...

Title: Re: birds in long yuen
Post by isaac_chan on Dec 4th, 2005, 2:18am
I give the answers of those simple IDs... :P

#3: Common Stonechat 黑喉石(即鳥)
#4: Wood Sandpiper 林鷸
#5: Common Sandpiper 磯鷸
#7: Olive-backed Pipit 樹鷚

Title: Re: birds in long yuen
Post by Anisus on Dec 4th, 2005, 6:42pm
#1
richard's pipit

#2
Swinhoe's / pintail snipe

#3
siberian stonechat

#4
wood sandpiper

#5
common sandpiper

#6
zitting cisticcola

#7
olive backed pipit



Title: Re: birds in long yuen
Post by George_Ho on Dec 4th, 2005, 9:02pm
The bird in #6 is a Bright-capped Cisticola.
Eliminated from Zitting Cisticola by its rufescent supercilium and much longer tail with brown tail tip.

Title: Re: birds in long yuen
Post by Anisus on Dec 4th, 2005, 10:02pm
this bird the tail too short .and i think the bright capped cisticola the crown should have much more streak.

Title: Re: birds in long yuen
Post by George_Ho on Dec 5th, 2005, 8:03pm

on 12/04/05 at 22:02:01, Anisus wrote:
this bird the tail too short .and i think the bright capped cisticola the crown should have much more streak.


Hi Anisus,
For this photo, the bird surely showed its long tail compared with the undertail coverts.
I think the streak on the crown is not the main feature to identify Bright-capped Cisticola.
For Zitting Cisticola, it show white supercilium and white tail tip.

Title: Re: birds in long yuen
Post by Forrest FONG on Dec 6th, 2005, 12:39am
Hi waterblowing,

The English name of 塱原 should be Long Valley.
You can't find either Long Valley or 塱原 in the map because its actual name is Yin Kong 燕崗.

Forrest

Title: Re: birds in long yuen
Post by waterblowing on Dec 6th, 2005, 6:47pm
Thanks a lot Forrest

Title: Re: Birds in Long Valley
Post by johnallcock on Dec 20th, 2005, 12:24pm
I think the cisticola is zitting rather than bright-capped:

The underparts are rather plain buff. Bright-capped usually shows a strong contrast between darker flanks and a pure white belly/throat.

The base colour of the crown is buffish. Bright-capped tends to show a greyer crown which contrasts with the more orange cheeks.

The tail-pattern is typical of zitting, with pale tips and a darker sub-terminal band.  I think the tips are actually rather than brown (especially on the outer tail)

There is slight contrast between the ear coverts and the rest of the head, creating a hint of a supercilium.  The head pattern of zitting is variable - most show a contrasting pale supercilium but some are much buffer.

The location also favours zitting (bright-capped is rare in the lowlands, whereas zitting is very common at Long Valley)

Incidentally, this bird appears to be calling. Do you remember what it sounded like? Zitting has a short 'zit zit' call (hence the name!) and bright-capped has a bleating call, similar to yellow-bellied prinia but more nasal and very distinctive once learned.  The call is definitely the easiest way to separate the two species which are very similar and quite variable in pattern (especially zitting)



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