kkoel

My vote for the first bird is sub-adult Eastern Marsh Harrier (2nd year perhaps). The differential would be female Pied Harrier, so the reasoning for Marsh and against Pied is:
a) Grey tail with incomplete barring fits male Marsh; female Pied has completely barred tail;
b) Lack of white 'spectacles' present in female Pied;
c) White rump is present in female Pied, but adult male Marsh shares this feature: this does not suggest Pied over Marsh, like it would do in juveniles.

Adult female Pied for reference: http://confoley.com/workshops/malaysia-lowlands

Sub-adult male Marsh for reference: http://digdeep1962.blogspot.com/ ... pung-permatang.html


For your second bird, I would vote for female Marsh due to the brownish rump, lack of white 'specs' and strong bill.

I'm happy to be corrected by experts as I haven't seen many Harriers, despite my deep interest... XD

[ Last edited by kkoel at 20/01/2012 21:11 ]